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Japan is not gripped by this made up lame story. My Japanese friends could care less.
It was before Japan’s isolation. It has fantasy in it, but I think it’s interesting.
But it’s only available on Disney+, so the number of viewers is limited.
“Adams… went on to become Japan’s first foreign samurai”. No, Yasuke was.
Japanese people don’t give a duck about this show 😂
It’s just for white weebs to fantasize about Japan. Have at it to be honest but don’t try to push it onto others.
I absolutely love this series! As a young teen (back in Canada) I was extremely captivated by the original (wasn’t even allowed to watch but snuck into family room to do so anyways) and find this viewing experience is a whole new level, as I actually live here now and my wife is Japanese.
Nobody in Japan has even heard of this.
The story of William Adams and Tokugawa Ieyasu (Toranaga) is crazy, but Oda Nobunaga is a much more interesting figure and his story with Yasuke is even crazier.
Hate to be that guy but I want to make a few corrections! As some have said already, the African Yasuke, samurai under Oda Nobunaga, arrived in Japan 20 or so years before William Adams, as did a number of Korean samurai who came to Japan due to the war between the two countries in the time of Hideyoshi. I think the author of the article maybe failed to do that research when he called Adams the first foreign samurai. Apart from that it was an interesting read. As for the story of Shogun, Blackthorne is clearly based on Adams but not him at the same time. The writer took a lot of freedom with the history and embellished the story to make it more dramatic—thus the changes to many of the names. Adams’ life was equally fascinating but I would say to the William Adams club member who moaned about the new Shogun series, Calm down, and realise it’s fiction and not a documentary! I certainly don’t think this current portrayal of Blackthorne is at all like Adams was – by all accounts Adams was less aggressive and was also incredibly culturally aware – but I am gripped by the show and think it’s been fantastic so far.
Just to be clear, there are some weird people who want to believe in some weird myth that “Yasuke was not a samurai”, but he was in fact, a samurai:
>In the “Ietada Diary,” dated May 11, 1582, there is an entry that reads, “He had a black man with him. His body was like ink, he was about 1.82 meters tall, and his name was Yasuke.” This was witnessed by Matsudaira Ietada, a servant of Ieyasu, when Nobunaga passed through Tokugawa territory on his way back from the conquest of Koshu, in which Yasuke also served. The diary entry clearly states that Yasuke was not a servant or indentured servant, but a samurai with a stipend.
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If you are going to post a the guardian article at least tldr in the comments… no one is subscribed to their service.
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Japan is not gripped by this made up lame story. My Japanese friends could care less.
It was before Japan’s isolation. It has fantasy in it, but I think it’s interesting.
But it’s only available on Disney+, so the number of viewers is limited.
“Adams… went on to become Japan’s first foreign samurai”. No, Yasuke was.
Japanese people don’t give a duck about this show 😂
It’s just for white weebs to fantasize about Japan. Have at it to be honest but don’t try to push it onto others.
I absolutely love this series! As a young teen (back in Canada) I was extremely captivated by the original (wasn’t even allowed to watch but snuck into family room to do so anyways) and find this viewing experience is a whole new level, as I actually live here now and my wife is Japanese.
Nobody in Japan has even heard of this.
The story of William Adams and Tokugawa Ieyasu (Toranaga) is crazy, but Oda Nobunaga is a much more interesting figure and his story with Yasuke is even crazier.
Hate to be that guy but I want to make a few corrections! As some have said already, the African Yasuke, samurai under Oda Nobunaga, arrived in Japan 20 or so years before William Adams, as did a number of Korean samurai who came to Japan due to the war between the two countries in the time of Hideyoshi. I think the author of the article maybe failed to do that research when he called Adams the first foreign samurai. Apart from that it was an interesting read. As for the story of Shogun, Blackthorne is clearly based on Adams but not him at the same time. The writer took a lot of freedom with the history and embellished the story to make it more dramatic—thus the changes to many of the names. Adams’ life was equally fascinating but I would say to the William Adams club member who moaned about the new Shogun series, Calm down, and realise it’s fiction and not a documentary! I certainly don’t think this current portrayal of Blackthorne is at all like Adams was – by all accounts Adams was less aggressive and was also incredibly culturally aware – but I am gripped by the show and think it’s been fantastic so far.
Just to be clear, there are some weird people who want to believe in some weird myth that “Yasuke was not a samurai”, but he was in fact, a samurai:
>In the “Ietada Diary,” dated May 11, 1582, there is an entry that reads, “He had a black man with him. His body was like ink, he was about 1.82 meters tall, and his name was Yasuke.” This was witnessed by Matsudaira Ietada, a servant of Ieyasu, when Nobunaga passed through Tokugawa territory on his way back from the conquest of Koshu, in which Yasuke also served. The diary entry clearly states that Yasuke was not a servant or indentured servant, but a samurai with a stipend.
[https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BC%A5%E5%8A%A9](https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BC%A5%E5%8A%A9)