Hey everyone needs some advice started a job in Japan and have been in this job three days. I was promised accommodation as part of the deal the employer keeps pushing back my accommodation dates. He did pay for some temporary accom for me however today it has ran out. Now he would have me stay in a room in a hotel that’s been abandoned 3 years getting renovated that I was told would be up and running nwhen I first agreed. To be clear the room was just previously filled with moldy stuff and junk. There’s a shower that hasn’t been used in 3 years and no cooking or eating facilities. He’s told me this will only be for two days but this is the third push back. I didn’t sign any contract was shown one but have not signed it. Can I leave without any legal fear? We’ve talked for 3 months which is why I’m sceptical of the validity of these accommodation claims. I don’t feel at all secure in this job.
by Brandon_McDaid
18 comments
get out. no sign, no deal.
Wtf. Tell us the name of the company
Yes – you can leave immediately within the first 14 days without fear of legal repercussions. After that you need to give 2 weeks notice.
However, don’t listen to a random person on the internet. Call the Labor Bureau and discuss with them. Here are the numbers for foreigners:
https://www.check-roudou.mhlw.go.jp/sp/soudan/foreigner_eng.html
I quit on the first day of the job before so yeah 👍
If you haven’t signed a contract then you aren’t employed.
English teacher?
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After talking with the boss I explained I wasn’t comfortable staying in a genuine building site alone in the woods he told me there was nothing he can do I can either stay in the room or go to Tokyo. So here I am one way ticket back to Tokyo 🤣
Quick question, I’ve heard one doesn’t need to sign anything to be hired as 正社員. Looks like I’m a full time employee in my current job, at least that’s what I’ve been told and what it seems like. If I wanted to quit and not do any two week notice, say immediately quit, would I be in legal trouble?
Yeah you can leave. Just say it’s not what you were promised in the interview etc. and you can leave. The company should sort out any paperwork. If the company threatens you it’s empty, because they don’t have any legal grounds to keep you there. Sorry to hear about this situation and I hope you can find something better soon!
Here’s a pro-tip from a long term worker in the Japanese TEFL industry: you can leave whenever you want.
Schools will always find a new worker. They will always get a replacement. You don’t need to feel beholden to them.
I’ve worked in various companies that overworked teachers and office staff and both have just stopped coming the next day.
Now I have my own thing but the experience taught me that the survivors are scrappers, you can leave and move on to the next thing when you like.
The company will simply replace you.
I’m sorry, what?
This sounds like you are basically homeless but haven’t realized it yet.
When you say you haven’t signed a contract, do you mean work contract or housing contract?
If you mean work contract then no you can’t quit. But only because you technically don’t actually have a job.
Has this guy told you the address or anything for the residence you would be living in? People don’t just rent apartments in 2 days so if he can’t even yell you where you would be, that means there is no place.
There are so many red flags here, you just need to run. Run far and run fast. He can’t do shit to you, legally or otherwise.
If he is already reneging on his part of the agreement, then you have every right to leave the position without finishing your contract. This reminds me of a situation that an employer had me in when I was in Korea, and in retrospect, I wish I had NEVER finished out my contract and just moved on. You have to do what is best for your health, sanity and overall wellbeing. These employers don’t care about you.—You have to look out for yourself. I personally avoided housing via an employer after my aforementioned situation and then once more in Japan. Better to have a job that allows you to have your own living space so that you’re livelihood is not too connected to the crappy company. Hope you can see happier days.
> have not signed it. Can I leave
Leave what? You’re basically unemployed.
Even if you are officially employed or had signed, you can quit any time.
if you became homeless due to a company not fulfilling their part in providing accommodations you can very likely consider that legal damages to you. I recommend you contact a labor attorney, a union, the labor standards department, the labor commission, etc.
Yeah. Leave them, sign nothing and report them to the labor department.
ofc
I’d just continue for the stories for years to come……just an adventure isn’t it….hotel room in yokyo…or abandoned place in the sticks…..I know which I would choose