What is the salary like? Is it high? What are pros and cons to being promoted within a dispatch company (like Interac, Joytalk etc) and becoming a recruiter/supervisor/manager/coordinator etc?
The biggest advantage for my (Interac) manager was to completely go back on all the shit talking about the company he did when he was an ALT, then use that experience to not improve things for the teachers whatsoever, and be more of a Douchebag than the previous manager ever was.
Real talk though, from what I heard the minor salary increase does not compensate for the incredibly long hours, mandatory meetings, and fewer days off.
But you do get to be a douche with no repercussions, so there’s that.
You… get moderately more money in turn for supporting a shit company instead of people who were in the same position you were.
You work more, you have to lie to people, and… you generally sell your soul for what… I’m assuming a max of 30,000 yen a month?
From what I’ve heard, people usually do it for the health insurance, pension and bonuses.
Basically, an ALT gets married and/or pregnancy and it’s a quick and easy step up from a dispatch contract/salary.
I’ve also heard it’s something good to do for 2-3 years so you can put down a management role on your CV to help you find better jobs later
My friend who is full time manager/recruiter at a dispatch makes 350,000 a month plus full-time benefits
So not great but still a step up
I’ve also heard it on the region of 300,000-350,000.
I had a friend who was a trainer at Interac and he moved onto a 350,000 job which he said was a slight pay increase for him.
If you pro rate it per hour of work, it’s likely the same or less than regular ALTs. These jobs are for slimey ass lickers or those in need of a bit of power who don’t mind lying and screwing over their fellow gaijin. The lowest scum of all foreigners in Japan.
ALTs who pick up privates and part time jobs are certainly able to make more with less stress and without fucking people over.
Recruiting companies here keep anywhere from 20-40% of the money the school pays. So, if you are getting 200,000 then they got anywhere from 250,000 to 325,000. Add in that most schools pay a twice a year bonus to their teachers, in the neighboorhood of 75% of 1 month salary – given in spring and winter. A lot of ALTS or dispatched teachers get 0 bonus or if their dispatch is generous, they get 25-50% of a month as the bonus, with dispatch agent keeping the rest.
Factor that by however many people they dispatch…
Now, how does that affect the pay of the actual agent, I’m not sure. But they have plenty of money to pay people.
Back in the early 2000’s I think Interac were paying about 20,000-30,000 extra a month for ALT ‘trainers’.
I’ve known a few people who worked management type jobs in both eikaiwa and ALT dispatch. They all eventually quit because of the company culture, and because they found better positions in companies that weren’t nearly as unprofessional, soul-sucking, and unethical. People generally leave these jobs once they can’t stand it any longer. Those who stay, well … they belong there.
Keep in ind that you’ll be required to brown-nose senior management and throw other people under the bus to toe the company line and uphold unfair labor practices.
People quit those jobs and move on because they are decent human beings who quail at what they are asked to do. And the longer you stay, and the higher your rank, the more unethical shit you’ll be asked to do. The danger is that after a while, you get so used to it that you justify in your mind. It becomes normal. You lose all sense of reality and don’t see anything wrong with it.
The ESL industry in Japan is rife with unethical business practices, unfair and even illegal labor practices, and the people who work in it are professional armatures who would never in a million years be able to get a job in education anywhere in the western world.
But I guess if your life ambition is nothing more than “I want to live in Japan and will do anything to stay in animeland” then hey, go for it.
I went from ALT to HR manager in B*rderlink. I got a slight raise in salary and a huge raise in the amount of work I was expected to do. I guess that goes without saying, but even after 5 or so years working at the job, the salary was never raised to make up for that gap. Needless to say, I am no longer there, but I wish the people I left behind the best with their living hell.
Definitely not a job to aspire to
270000 yen. Not much of a difference from a regular ALT.
I just interviewed at dispatch company and their pay (including 20hrs of overtime allowance) is just over the prefectural minimum wage at 213000円
I heard that it goes up during the busy season when everyone does daily overtime averaging at 60hrs overtime/month but even then it doesn’t go past 270000円
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The biggest advantage for my (Interac) manager was to completely go back on all the shit talking about the company he did when he was an ALT, then use that experience to not improve things for the teachers whatsoever, and be more of a Douchebag than the previous manager ever was.
Real talk though, from what I heard the minor salary increase does not compensate for the incredibly long hours, mandatory meetings, and fewer days off.
But you do get to be a douche with no repercussions, so there’s that.
You… get moderately more money in turn for supporting a shit company instead of people who were in the same position you were.
You work more, you have to lie to people, and… you generally sell your soul for what… I’m assuming a max of 30,000 yen a month?
From what I’ve heard, people usually do it for the health insurance, pension and bonuses.
Basically, an ALT gets married and/or pregnancy and it’s a quick and easy step up from a dispatch contract/salary.
I’ve also heard it’s something good to do for 2-3 years so you can put down a management role on your CV to help you find better jobs later
My friend who is full time manager/recruiter at a dispatch makes 350,000 a month plus full-time benefits
So not great but still a step up
I’ve also heard it on the region of 300,000-350,000.
I had a friend who was a trainer at Interac and he moved onto a 350,000 job which he said was a slight pay increase for him.
If you pro rate it per hour of work, it’s likely the same or less than regular ALTs. These jobs are for slimey ass lickers or those in need of a bit of power who don’t mind lying and screwing over their fellow gaijin. The lowest scum of all foreigners in Japan.
ALTs who pick up privates and part time jobs are certainly able to make more with less stress and without fucking people over.
Recruiting companies here keep anywhere from 20-40% of the money the school pays. So, if you are getting 200,000 then they got anywhere from 250,000 to 325,000. Add in that most schools pay a twice a year bonus to their teachers, in the neighboorhood of 75% of 1 month salary – given in spring and winter. A lot of ALTS or dispatched teachers get 0 bonus or if their dispatch is generous, they get 25-50% of a month as the bonus, with dispatch agent keeping the rest.
Factor that by however many people they dispatch…
Now, how does that affect the pay of the actual agent, I’m not sure. But they have plenty of money to pay people.
Back in the early 2000’s I think Interac were paying about 20,000-30,000 extra a month for ALT ‘trainers’.
I’ve known a few people who worked management type jobs in both eikaiwa and ALT dispatch. They all eventually quit because of the company culture, and because they found better positions in companies that weren’t nearly as unprofessional, soul-sucking, and unethical. People generally leave these jobs once they can’t stand it any longer. Those who stay, well … they belong there.
Keep in ind that you’ll be required to brown-nose senior management and throw other people under the bus to toe the company line and uphold unfair labor practices.
People quit those jobs and move on because they are decent human beings who quail at what they are asked to do. And the longer you stay, and the higher your rank, the more unethical shit you’ll be asked to do. The danger is that after a while, you get so used to it that you justify in your mind. It becomes normal. You lose all sense of reality and don’t see anything wrong with it.
The ESL industry in Japan is rife with unethical business practices, unfair and even illegal labor practices, and the people who work in it are professional armatures who would never in a million years be able to get a job in education anywhere in the western world.
But I guess if your life ambition is nothing more than “I want to live in Japan and will do anything to stay in animeland” then hey, go for it.
I went from ALT to HR manager in B*rderlink. I got a slight raise in salary and a huge raise in the amount of work I was expected to do. I guess that goes without saying, but even after 5 or so years working at the job, the salary was never raised to make up for that gap. Needless to say, I am no longer there, but I wish the people I left behind the best with their living hell.
Definitely not a job to aspire to
270000 yen. Not much of a difference from a regular ALT.
I just interviewed at dispatch company and their pay (including 20hrs of overtime allowance) is just over the prefectural minimum wage at 213000円
I heard that it goes up during the busy season when everyone does daily overtime averaging at 60hrs overtime/month but even then it doesn’t go past 270000円
it’s unlivable even in the countryside