Osaka and Kyoto in October vs November and March vs May?

Hi,

Looking at going to Osaka and Kyoto this year October or November and/or possibly next year in March or May.

I could care less about the cherry blossoming if it means I don't have to be subjected to massive crowds. So I am not considering April at all.

I feel ambivalent on the weather. I can't stand the heat, but I guess I would want somewhat pleasant weather for all the walking I will do and enough daylight to be able to see and photograph.

The changing of the seasons during Autumn would be nice, but once again: I'll happily skip it if it means I don't have to be in massive crowds.

Thank you in advance for any suggestions regarding this.

by Hornavan

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