October 2022 Itinerary v3


I’m looking to travel with my wife to Japan in October 2022. This is version3 from [my last post](https://www.reddit.com/r/JapanTravel/comments/h7p49r/cherry_blossom_2021_itinerary/) which received lots of great feedback & critique (thank you all, particularly Gristooki!). Covid meant that we couldn’t go this year and I’m not quite comfortable booking for Spring 2022 so we are going for later in the year instead and will unfortunately miss the sakura. This is our updated version which I’d like advice on & further fine-tuning.

 
The itinerary is as follows:

Day|Destination|Travel|Notes
:–|:–|:–|:–
x|-|Fly LON -> HND|
1|Tokyo|Arrive midday|Hotel near Shinjuku station. No major plans – just going to explore
2|Tokyo||Explore North – Asakusa, Skytree, Akihabara
3|Tokyo||Explore locally in the West; walk down through Harajuku to Shibuya
4|Tokyo|2hrs train|Daytrip to Kamakura
5|Tokyo||Explore South – Odabai, TeamLabs Borderless (or Planets)
6|Hiroshima|4hrs train|Leave early & get bullet train. Peace Museum & eat around Okonomimura
7|Miyajima|1hr train & boat|Relaxing stay at Iwaso Ryokan
8|Osaka|3.30hrs train|Slow day leaving Miyajima. Arrive late and wander around Dotombori
9|Osaka||Aquarium or Universal Studios, and check out Shinsekai
10|Koyasan|2.30hrs trains|Temple stay at Shojoshinin
11|Kyoto|3.30hrs trains|Slow day leaving Koya. Stay in Ryokan/hotel near Gion
12|Kyoto||Explore East – [Higashiyama, temples & shrines](https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e3950_higashiyama_half.html)
13|Kyoto||Explore NorthEast – [Imperial Palace, Philosophers Path, temples & shrines](https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e3950_philosophers_half.html)
14|Kyoto|2hrs train|Daytrip to Nara – temples & deer
15|Kyoto||Arashiyama – monkeys, bamboo, shrines, boats
16|Kyoto||Free day to explore, shop & do tourist stuff like a calligraphy class
17|Five Lakes|5hrs trains|Stay at Konansou w/ Mt. Fuji view
18|Five Lakes||Relaxing day Five Lakes
19|Tokyo|3hrs trains|Arrive late, stay central or Odaiba
20|Tokyo||Last day, shopping & anything else we’ve missed
21||Fly HND -> LDN|Home

 

This itinerary is not final though and I am not married to the second day in Osaka or in Five Lakes, which gives me potentially 2-days to repurpose.

We typically prefer the quieter spots and tend to grow weary of intense city-life. I am open to suggestions for where we might like that is quieter but I am struggling to find highly rated, relaxing, accessible destinations, that will not be hugely crowded. There are a few places that I have considered but I have been unable to work into the itinerary:

* [Kibune](https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e3967.html)
* [Kiso Valley](https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e6075.html)
* [Takayama](https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e5900.html)
* [Kinosaki](https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e3525.html)
* [Hakone](https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e5200.html)

Which of the above would you most recommend and why?

Secondly – Tokyo – Should we stay around Shinjuku? What about Shibuya? Or Central?
 
Any and all feedback welcome. Please share your thoughts!

5 comments
  1. When we went to Japan, we spent 10 days in Tokyo like this: one day for Akihabara, one day for Asakusa (ueno park, temple and skytree), one day for Shinjuku, one day for Odaiba, one day for Shibuya, one day for Tokyo station (plus Tokyo Tower), one day for Ikebukuro, one day for Yokohama and two days for Mt. Fuji. After that, we went south for Kyoto, Osaka and Hiroshima. Thinking about my next trip to Japan, I want to spend 15 days in Tokyo alone, because 10 days were not enough.

  2. About the extra location, there is so much you can do. You could swap Kawaguchiko for Hakone, or Kinosaki (can be done before Hiroshima and stop by Himeji on the way to Hiroshima). I do not especially like Kawaguchiko done between Tokyo and Kyoto because to not the most convenient transit, but it is possible to do.

    Kibune could be done on your last day, depending on how the rest goes, unless you take an appointment for a class. Would skip Takayama and Kiso valley and save if for a future trip when you can spend more time in the area.

    As for place to stay in Tokyo, why not do two different area ? First do Shinjuku or Shibuya is you want the modern and busy side of the city and the other time stay somewhere like Asakusa. Just split the area you want to visit so you do things that are closer to the place where you stay (like do Harajuku from Shinjuku or Shibuya, not from Asakusa). I would not stay in Odaiba because the transportation is not especially convenient to go to other places and you will end up spending way more than if you could use JR only or subway only to go where you want.

    And you might want to rebalance it a bit to have more Tokyo day at the end, so you save most of your shopping for last.

  3. I guess you’re pretty dead-set on that Hiroshima leg? On one side you do have a longer trip than most, on the other the Tokyo->Hiroshima and Hiroshima->Osaka rides mean you’re burning almost a day’s worth of daylight on a train.

    I’m wondering if you’d be temple’d out given the Koyasan-Kyoto-Nara three-hit combo.

    Highly rated, relaxing, accessible, not that crowded destination that’s near the current itinerary? Hikone. Just north of Kyoto, has an original castle and a really cute town mascot. Good suburban feels, take a day off to ride along the shores of Lake Biwa and around the town on a bike.

    There’s also a shrine with a torii on the water in Lake Biwa – Shirahige Shrine. East facing so there’s a chance of a nice sunrise picture.

  4. Of your list I’ve only been to Takayama and Hakone and I would recommend Takayama. Its a lovely small relaxing town. It’s pretty popular with tourists so the main areas can be busy but it’s easy to escape the crowds if you want.

    Hakone is nice but the focus is on the Hakone loop so it depends on how interested you are on that. Also visibility of Mt Fuji and overall enjoyment is weather dependent.

  5. Hakone is the easiest of those other places to visit and for good reason one of the most popular domestic travel locations for people in Japan. Loads of things to see, great hotels, iconic Fuji views, etc.

    Takayama is great. Great ambiance, lots of things to see, the day trips to Shirakawago and Hida, etc. It really only makes sense in my mind on a route that goes through Kanazawa on the north end and then cutting over east through Matsumoto by bus or continuing down through Nagoya on the train.

    If you are going to go all the way to Hiroshima, consider seeing Okayama and Kurashiki.

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