Employer posted a job with entry level pay asking for two to three years of experience, with a bachelors, TESOL certificate, and for writing and creating curriculums and lesson plans, training other teachers and teaching students in various subjects and they said they’ll compensate me 1100 yen per hour lmao. They even said oh well we’ve done extensive research on the salary of teachers and their worth in Japan and that’s how much it comes up to. Also, because it’s remote you get paid less. So online remote jobs are less value???? There are plenty of online jobs that pay normal to high wages.
The stupid part was I told them to contact me ONLY if they were willing to renegotiate the pay and they basically said they couldn’t in the interview so wtf thanks for wasting my time.
They’ll probably email me later and say I’m hired with that shit pay and I’ll be sending them a fuck you message soon 👏👏👏👏👏
Sorry for the rant. I have a couple of years of teaching experience and was paid wayyy more than this when I first started out so I expected a bit more. Oh well!
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Thanks for all the support guys. The company’s name is Twinkl. They have a Japanese team and a UK team and it seems like the Japanese team determines how much the workers in Japan get paid. Definitely AVOID!!!
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name and shame- let others know who to avoid
>and for writing and creating curriculums and lesson plans, training other teachers and teaching students in various subjects and they said they’ll compensate me 1100 yen per hour lmao.
While they were at it, why not ask Santa for a pony and a real transforming Optimus Prime with real transforming trailer? They want a worker who will do the kind of duties you give to a senior professional in the field for the kind of pay you would give a person to hold the glowy sticks and direct sidewalk traffic around an open manhole.
Name and shame, my dude. No one who can do that kind of work deserves this kind of insult.
I had a glance at ESL instructor jobs in Canada and the UK for reference. The hourly rates range from Y1800-3000/hr. Canadian ESL schools want a TESL Canada recognized qualification, the UK ones want an Ofqual level.
Y1100/hr for curric and teacher training is ridiculous never mind whether it’s online or face to face.
Well, if you assume 300,000 a month for a full timer who teaches 4 weeks and 30 hrs a week, you get around 2500 yen an hour, minus taxes. I usually was always paid at LEAST 3000 yen an hour if paid hourly. There are a lot of cheapskates out there and it’s not worth haggling.
Instead of doing that, if you have any savings, research how much an office costs to rent and find an area with a lot of mansion away from the station. I probably made more money teaching classes of 5-6 kids 4-5 times a week on my own. Each kid was 15000 a month X 5 kids per class = 75000 X 5 times a week = 375000 monthly for a couple of days of work a week, three hours each day (have to talk to the moms too). Pretty good for just 25 kids.
Yeah. Don’t settle for that, that’s ridiculous.
The thing is, what most employers here consider a good amount of experience is a couple of years. They also don’t care at all about qualifications, and what they call “creating curriculum” usually just means choosing a textbook and making some grammar worksheets. So when they tell you your work is only worth 1,100 yen an hour? Well… what this job would require you to do probably is only worth 1,100 yen per hour.
I would advise anyone who wants decent pay and respect for your skills to leave Japan to work in a country where they actually take teaching languages seriously, and expect you to have qualifications and skills.
Now that Japan is a “cool” place to work, and “teaching English” is a job that anyone can do as long as they are a “native speaker”, teachers are a dime a dozen and worth about as much. This is just the reality of teaching in Japan.
Well, online teaching IS less valuable lol
If you consider typical ALT jobs to be between 200,000-250,000 yen/mo (JET is an exception not the rule) WITHOUT experience then these fuckers are just blowing smoke up people’s asses. And the whole remote=less is bullshit. Aside from shitty call center jobs, everywhere I’ve seen (at least here in the US) actually gives you HIGHER PAY when it’s remote or at the very least the same wage as if it were in-person.
Sad thing is, if that employer is sponsoring visas I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a weeb desperate enough to take that job…
I saw 950 yen per hour, and up to 500 per day for travel, in my local classifieds.
Hint: they want cheap teachers who aren’t native speakers.
It’s terrible isn’t it. It’s been going down every year.
Laugh all you like, but this is where the industry is headed.
Damn, what a shit hole
I just have to comment on this again.
By chance a job ad popped up on my Facebook. They’re looking for people to work cleaning boxes and sorting product in a fish market. Once again: cleaning and sorting fish.
The pay is 1,500/hr. For the night shift, it’s 1,800/hr.
I think Nova and Gaba pay something like that, right?
I wonder if the college grads coming here to teach English for low pay understand that they are making the same amount as people cleaning fish.
There is *no shame* in blue collar work whatsoever, but honestly – it makes me laugh thinking that people who graduated college are coming to Japan going, “Yaaaaay, I can work in Japan!”
Like I have said before: I can hardly feel sorry for you if you come here and knowingly take a teaching job that pays 1,500~2,000 yen an hour. Remember that as a native speaker, you are privileged – keep in mind that even without any Japanese skills, or applicable skills other than speaking English, you would otherwise be cleaning up fish guts, or working in a factory like a Brazilian friend of mine did for many years before going home courtesy of the Japanese government in 2002.
Again, no shame in blue collar work. Again, everyone should make a living wage. But when you immigrate to a foreign country without knowing the language just because you want to work there and have fun playing around for a year? Or after that year you never bother upgrading your skills or learn to speak the language?
Tell me again why you deserve to get paid more than someone working their butt off in a hot factory or someone cleaning fish guts. Because you’re white? Because you’re from north America, or the UK, or NZ or Oz? Because you are college-educated? A lot of immigrants are.
Come on. English teachers who have no experience or qualifications making more than a factory worker who likely does have the necessary skills for that particular job AND more experience, is a total scam, and you bloody well know it.
Check your privilege. And advocate for higher wages for *everyone* instead of just Engrish teachurs.
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◆JR Oomori st.New Job ◎fish market , sorting and measuring, Box packing and washing
Location: Oota Shijo (Omori area)
Nearest station: -Heiwajima station (Keikyu) -Ryutsu Center Station (Tokyo Monorail) -Showa station (Tokyo Monorail)
You will handle sorting and measuring products or packing and washing boxes.
Hourly wage: Day: 1,500 yen~ Night : 1,875 yen〜 (8h 13688yen) 0:30-09:30