Questions concerning “without” in Japanese?

I know there is なしで, なしに, 抜きで and 抜きに.

My question is how are they different?

When can I use 抜き? And when can I use なし?

4 comments
  1. I don’t think there is much of difference between なし and 抜き, it’s more about different wording and people might prefer one over another by any reason. However, the difference between に and で is more evident and doesn’t have to do much with なし・抜き. It’s more about the difference between particles itself, for example, で basically represents て-form, which can be used for consequences, so if your clauses contain some consequences or means of achieving, then people might prefer で variation. At the same time if you clauses have a simple adverbial description, then に might be preferred.

    It’s actually a bit hard to explain clearly, because the difference between に and て is kinda formed via variety of other grammar forms. The more you compare something like ずに with なくて or ないで, the more you understand how it works.

  2. I hear 抜き a lot at restaurants like if i want to say “can you take out the cucumbers” i think its used more when you want to omit something that’s present. Whereas なし、there was nothing to begin with? If that makes sense hahaha

  3. The difference when used as a qualifier is basically that you use 抜き when something is absent that should have/would have otherwise been present (rather, something was removed) whereas なし is just a declaration that something is not there. Using either in basically any situation will get your point across, but it certain usages will be more or less natural sounding.

    If you were asking for no pickles on a burger we would generally say ピクルス抜きでお願いします because they are being removed from an order that originally would include them. If you were trying to decide what you wanted for dinner but you do not like shellfish you may say 貝類なしでお願いします. There are also set phrases such as 恨みっこなし (no hard feelings) or お世辞抜き (honestly) which are used this way because on their own 抜き means to remove whereas なし means more like not allowed.

Leave a Reply
You May Also Like