Opinion on sound on the front for kanji vocab cards?

Now, from what I’ve seen a lot of people seem to think this is a bad way to practice, but hear me out. Sorry for the incoming wall of text as well, bear with me for a second.

I have done 50/cards a day for the last few weeks, 25 in the Refold JP1k deck and 25 in the Core 2.3k deck. If you’re unaware, JP1k’s basic setup is that it has a 3 layer card, where you have the kanji on the front, then you hit a button that shows the reading and plays a sound bite of it read aloud, and then you flip it on the back for the meaning. Core2.3k’s basic setup is that there’s *just* the kanji on the front, then sound/reading etc stuff on the back. It may seem stupid, but since I am doing many cards a day, I stopped doing the 3 step system for the JP1k deck, and instead I have it auto play the sound on the front of the card, then I flip and see if I recalled the meaning of the vocab associated with the card. In my 2k deck, I have it set to auto play the audio on the back as well as writing out any new kanji manually a few times. Thus, it requires a lot more effort to engage with. Even so, I have found that my overall retention is *much* higher in the audio on the front cards, and it’s a lot more comfortable to naturally learn vocabulary this way. I feel like this nearly emulates anime/VNs with JP subs, since it’s good listening practice to hear it one time *and* visually see it and try and recall the meaning. Whereas with audio on the back, it kinda isolates the processes. ^please note, I’m doing it this way now, but please don’t brush it off and attribute my better recollection simply to the fact that if I’m doing both decks at once, naturally the “Easier” method is going to yield “better” results. I have done days where I only did one deck to test this, and overall I still had much better results with the JP1K deck.

Once I finish the JP1K deck, I am going to go all in on the Core2.3k and I’m debating on transitioning to putting the audio on the front for this deck, but I’m afraid it will really hamper my reading ability. Or if I mostly wanna play VNs/watch anime/watch native japanese content, is this method okay? Afterall, being able to coherently engage with native content earlier in any context *could* be better right? Like I would be able to read more capably later anyways, as my brain would still pick up on important kanji and the like during my immersion?

Also, a lot of people learn kanji through RTK and simply remember just the meanings, but don’t learn the readings until much much later anyways, so couldn’t this also be a not too dissimilar way of layering the information differently so I can naturally acquire more? Kinda like how kids learn to speak before they learn to write?

Apologies for the wall of text, I’m just stricken with indecision as I’ve heard many negative things about sound on the front kanji cards, but none really that compare it to the perspective of watching anime/reading VNs.

3 comments
  1. >and instead I have it auto play the sound on the front of the card, then I flip and see if I recalled the meaning of the vocab associated with the card.

    So, what your telling me is…you find it easier to recall the English meaning of a word after the card tells you how the word is pronounced?

    If you’re only doing half the work it’s no wonder your retention rates have increased.

  2. ~~Your post title is misleading. You’re not just doing one set of cards with audio on the front, you’re doing one set of cards with audio on the front, and one set with audio on the back (the meanings are not really relevant here as you’re testing them on both sets).~~

    ~~This is similar to the [atomic approach](https://www.supermemo.com/en/blog/twenty-rules-of-formulating-knowledge) recommended for breaking down facts to fit into Anki cards e.g. instead of having a card that says~~

    > ~~Who invented history in what year?~~

    ~~you would have three cards that say~~

    > ~~____ invented history in 1987~~
    >
    > ~~John History invented ____ in 1987~~
    >
    > ~~John History invented history in ____~~

    ~~There is nothing wrong with this approach, it just means you do more cards per day, but easier ones. As long as you’re testing yourself on the readings at *some* point, it doesn’t matter that much.~~

    Edit: I misinterpreted the post. OP is not planning to learn the readings which is not a great idea.

  3. >as well as writing out any new kanji manually a few times

    If your goal is to watch anime and read VNs… Why? It’s a marginal increase in retention versus wasting your time writing things out.

    >Even so, I have found that my overall retention is much higher in the audio on the front cards, and it’s a lot more comfortable to naturally learn vocabulary this way.

    No… Your retention is higher because you no longer have to recall the reading, just the meaning.

    Scrap the front audio and stop writing stuff out. Stop obsessing over your retention rate.

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