Pronunciation drills as a beginner?

I’m obviously not at the stage yet where I’m outputting but whenever I read or do my Anki reps, I subvocalize and sometimes even read out loud. The issue is, I don’t want to drill bad pronunciation into my head, or rather my muscles.

If I do pronunciation drills now, my subvocalization and reading will, of course, become less bad (albeit still imperfect). On the other hand, if I do drills now my unconscious mind may become complacent and not improve as much on its own as had I not done them. Another thing is that my ears are not yet at a near-native level so I imagine it would be hard for me to actually do pronunciation drills because I can’t give myself feedback well as to whether something I said sounded good or not. I could be taking iTalki classes where I do nothing but pronounce single words (or single morae) in isolation and maybe read a text out loud to my teacher but before I invest in that I thought I’d ask here.

This may come off as overthinking or whatnot but I honestly think not caring about phonology is what caused my English to be so non-native sounding even after 10 years of massive exposure, something I’d really rather not repeat with Japanese.

On a related note, my native language also realizes R as a voiced alveolar tap, just like Japanese. The issue is, however, that they sound pretty different lol. I feel like learning to produce something that’s slightly different from one’s native languages is considerably more difficult than just learning a new phoneme altogether.

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  1. Several years ago, I tried the Rosetta Stone software recorded the student’s voice. The software evaluated the pronunciation for pass/fail, showed a graphic comparison, and played a native pronunciation. I thought it was pretty slick but I don’t think it was effective. YMMV.

    If you can meet a tutor in person that would be the very best as there is live audio and 3D faces. An online tutor is better than no tutor but you are battling poor mics, poor audio processing software, and poor headphones.

    Listening skills are important. One of my friends in beginning Japanese class was a concert pianist from China. He had to repeat the class because the teachers said he wasn’t hearing the Japanese well enough to pronounce correctly. That was a slow start but he got the hang of things soon enough.

    One of my favourite Japanese books relates to pronunciation. There are sample pages and audio here

    https://www.ask-books.com/jp/978-4-87217-741-1/

  2. Dogen’s Japanese phonetics course. There are pronunciation drills in the earlier videos as well as lots of good advice for training good pronunciation in general (it is not only a pitch accent course).

    Can’t go wrong with Dogen’s course plus daily shadowing of basically any natural Japanese that you are comfortable listening to.

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