Happy May Day, workers!
My stress-inducing company is going to be introducing a new way to track employee hours in the near future and I’m wondering if it will be to our benefit or just be more oppression.
For years we had touch-style cards that we’d hold up at the door. A simple touch. Then last year they introduced a new system where you have to log in to a third-party site using either a computer or your phone, enter a username and password, then click 出勤 and then “OK” just to be sure; same on the way out. Seven or eight clicks including loading a shortcut from your phone, but on the other hand, you can log in on the elevator and not feel like you have to sprint for the door if time is short. You take the good with the bad.
Now we’re getting something new: 打刻レス *dakoku-less* clocking. How? By automatically tracking when our PCs are open and in use. We in the HR department are getting it first before it gets rolled out to everyone.
The system is a Japanese equivalent of Hubstaff or Time Doctor, both of which get good ratings online, but surely those ratings are written by the managers and not the working stiffs who are *being* managed.
I suppose saving all those clicks is going to be a help, but (and call me cynical) I see far more problems than benefits. To get started, the new system imported all our PC data (so it had already been tracked…) since March 3, and people’s records show a whole lot of red exclamation points after each date with「遅刻した理由を書いてください」added. Of course we weren’t *late*; we just didn’t have our computers logged in. I arrive 15-25 minutes early to get a bunch of stuff laid out for the employees (postal bags, distribution of mail) before the day begins, and might not log in to the PC until 5-10 minutes after starting time.
Under the new system I suspect everyone will have to start making a point of not just being at their desk, but logged in and working before the starting time and after the ending time, even though there’s a lot of work we do that isn’t in front of a PC.
We’ve also been having to manually log each half hour’s activity into Microsoft Outlook, which is seriously stress-inducing, so perhaps this will go away now that they’ll know what we’re working on automatically?
I’ve heard of these kinds of systems being used to keep home-based workers’ noses to the grindstone, checking up on everything they do and not trusting them for a second. But does the automation of tracking activity relieve you of having to track it yourself? Is this kind of thing just the standard nowadays and my Luddite self should stop complaining? It’s already happening with Teams and Outlook showing whether you’re busy to anyone who hovers over your name. “Your icon should never be green or yellow,” says the boss. And the world seems to have accepted this as the norm these days.
So what experience have you folks had with these? I’m *expecting* more totalitarian control and more evidence with which to bully underperformers, but I’m *hoping* that this can automate away some of the stifling, misery-inducing self-reporting that has also been unbearable in recent years. Thoughts?
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I say fuck that bullshit and get a job where they will treat you as a capable adult.
Don’t change how you work. If they reduce your pay or say you are working less then fight it.
Don’t try to fake anything at the beginning. Or else you will have to maintain that leve
Welcome to the new world. With Covid they started tracking clicks per hour on our pcs.
My old company, the real estate one, did the Line Works thing and a different system for time cards. It worked well and was easy to deal with. You had to have the PC on for anything to work, so I guess this doesn’t sound different, but at the same time counts time away from the pc as you being late? Sounds rife for abuse
Are they tracking you because they need to bill the customer for the actual time spent on the project by each employee or because they want to track each employee regardless?
The former is perfectly acceptable, the latter hell no.
> Your icon should never be green or yellow,” says the boss
-Set up a meeting with yourself
-Boss is now happy
…
Profit.
Perfect for a society that has completely internalized the logical fallacy that “time working” (or the appearance of working) equals productivity.
I worked at a company that automatically tracked the clock-in/clock-out time of remote employees via the first and last time we connect to company VPN in a day. This was back in 2017~2018, so at least that part is not new.
Fun fact: Just like many other dogmatic Economics notions taught to us in a way that’s skewed to favor the ruling class, Luddism is usually presented as if were a bad thing, “a bunch of backwards minded savages who were against technology.” That’s actually not what happened.
The workers were losing jobs and pay due to machines coming in. Those who kept their jobs were much more productive with more complex tasks and working harder still, with no pay increase. They pleaded nicely for a long time, trying to reason with the factory owners so that everyone can benefit from the technological advancement. And of course, the factory owners said “ah you’re right, I never considered that point of view.”🙄
My current company has been using that tracking by login/logout pc time for years.. and there are 10min flexible before/after that logged time for us to input without any reason.
In case we actually come to office and start working more than 10min before logging to the pc >> we will input the actual time and the explanation. My manager never asked me to explain in details for the reason anyways. I think if your company’s policy can be flexible then tracking by the pc’s logging time would actually be helpful
Why is such a draconian tracking system necessary? Are there that many slackers out there? I track my staff’s work by results. If they get their work assignments in on time and the results are acceptable then I take that as an indication that they’re working.