Really enjoying Japanese From Zero’s site as a beginner trying to learn solo

I’m just starting off for whatever this opinion is worth, but I did want to say that I’ve been really liking Japanese From Zero’s website course as a self-studier. Just off the bat, I’ve seen that the main criticism of the JFZ books are its “progressive kana” system where it splices romaji and kana together, but the site completely overhauled that by allowing you to fast-toggle between romaji, progressive, kana, and even kanji. This alleviates the awkwardness of the progressive system, but imo it’s also a fantastic learning tool, especially for me as a beginner, since it’s easy to toggle back and forth between the kana and the romaji if I was unsure about a pronunciation. Each word/phrase also comes with a hover-box that allows you to copy the text to your clipboard and also toggle between the different viewings, which makes making my own Anki cards a lot easier

All of the sentences are voiced, each with their own play button, so it’s also easy to get immediate feedback and even practice comprehension. I’d also bought Genki I and Beginner Tobira, and as someone who’s not in a classroom course, I found that getting this feedback (or even getting an answer sheet to check myself against) was kinda cumbersome. The audio files for Genki and Beginner Tobira are fine, but there is something to be said about not having to listen to answers in batches or not having to scrub through the mp3 to find the particular line you want

I will say that the content is noticeably slower than Genki. I’ve done JFZ’s Book 1 lessons 1-4, and that’s only equivalent to Lesson 1 of Genki. Whereas Genki has a paragraph and three lines on the use of ‘nの,’ JFZ has an entire lesson dedicated to that, which I can see as being frustrating if you are trying to blaze through this. I haven’t minded it really since I still found it helpful to practice all the lines, repetitive as they may be, and I figure that repetition is the point of language acquisition anyway

JFZ’s site is noticeably more expensive than just getting Genki or Tobira (it’s $13/mo), but I personally have found the convenience of it all to be well worth it. It’s self-contained so you don’t need the JFZ books (which are way overpriced imo… you’d have to pay $150-200 for a full set which sounds like it’s just equivalent to Genki I+II), and honestly, even the text on the website explains things well enough that I’ve only glanced at the videos in passing (videos are free on youtube too!). Anyway, free accounts get access to the first three lessons per book so you can always check it out to see if you like it or not

I know I’m really sounding like I’m shilling (I’m not, I swear!), but I’m just glad to find a way to study that works for me and wanted to share

5 comments
  1. Why not just learn some more grammar then start spamming srs to memorise words? Use [jpdb.io](https://jpdb.io) and get a deck of words appearing by frequency, learn a few thousand words and start immersing in native media. When immersing keep doing new cards every day, Doesn’t cost a penny and is probably more efficient.

    [jpdb.io](https://jpdb.io) has built in srs, premade decks, dictionary, actual word pronunciation (with the correct pitches) and other useful features.

  2. Can’t say I’ve ever used JFZ before, from what I’ve heard it’s great as long as you don’t mind the slower pace it goes at than its peers. Not my personal cup of tea, but I can definitely see why some would really enjoy it

    Japanese is a lifelong journey, and anything that keeps you motivated and coming back to improve yourself is definitely a win in my opinion

    Congrats on finding a system that works for you, and best of luck in your future Japanese studies. がんばって!

  3. Thanks for this, I’m definitely looking at the free lessons.
    In regards to the settings, what would make sense for a complete beginner? Would it be progressive?

  4. George Trombley, the author of JFZ has a great video series on Youtube covering basic Japanese grammar. It’s what got me started. His books are too slow-paced though, in my opinion. Haven’t tried the website. After learning the basic grammar I started grinding through manga and using Anki to memorize vocab.

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