Being a university student I do not have time to use both and try both, So I wanted to know which one should I go for and whats the most effective way. Or can I just immerse without them and directly through anime and stuff?
Works amazing and i’ve had great results recently ! I think it’s based on refold
I did AJATT, because AJATT was what was available at the time and TBH Refold is just slimmed down, digestible, AJATT.
In fact the Refold creators (or at least some of them) did AJATT.
Whether you go with them or not (as it’s not a course, it’s more a guideline), if you’re immersing you should be vocabulary and sentence mining.
That’s pretty much the whole concept of both of them anyway.
You immerse, and look up words, and add sentences to Anki.
They’re both created and promoted by shady people, so I would avoid both.
I think most immersion-based methods are more or less the same thing, the only thing they really differ in is how they get you to a point where you actually know enough to benefit from immersing in native content.
It might seem odd at first, considering that’s an incredibly tiny part of the overall work required to reach fluency, but virtually all learners of Japanese quit before they even get that far, so making the initial stages as comfortable and streamlined as possible makes sense.
So just pick the one you can see yourself sticking with.
All methods are roughly the same. If you consistently learn words, better if it’s SRS like Anki, and you practice it in any way you like, so it’s not only theoretical knowledge, then you do all that is needed. Quite often people need ~300-500 hours to start using content comfortably, and ~3000 hours to pass N1. This varies a bit, depending on your native language and if you already have learned other foreign languages before, also a bit on individual ability, but you can ask more or less any person how much time it took and it’s going to be somewhere around this number, no matter which approach they used. Classes, language schools, self learning with textbooks, self learning with content and so on.
In the end you just have to make progress. Method doesn’t matter as long as you are learning and not spinning your wheels
Textbook and a beginner course if you have access to one nearby you. Structured teaching material helps a lot in the beginning and the language is hard enough as it is without trying to guess your way to learning your first foreign language.
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I’ve only ever used refold but as far as I know refold is more recommended than AJATT because AJATT can be way too much for a lot of people
I’m personnaly going for this : https://learnjapanese.moe/
Works amazing and i’ve had great results recently !
I think it’s based on refold
I did AJATT, because AJATT was what was available at the time and TBH Refold is just slimmed down, digestible, AJATT.
In fact the Refold creators (or at least some of them) did AJATT.
Whether you go with them or not (as it’s not a course, it’s more a guideline), if you’re immersing you should be vocabulary and sentence mining.
That’s pretty much the whole concept of both of them anyway.
You immerse, and look up words, and add sentences to Anki.
They’re both created and promoted by shady people, so I would avoid both.
I think most immersion-based methods are more or less the same thing, the only thing they really differ in is how they get you to a point where you actually know enough to benefit from immersing in native content.
It might seem odd at first, considering that’s an incredibly tiny part of the overall work required to reach fluency, but virtually all learners of Japanese quit before they even get that far, so making the initial stages as comfortable and streamlined as possible makes sense.
So just pick the one you can see yourself sticking with.
All methods are roughly the same. If you consistently learn words, better if it’s SRS like Anki, and you practice it in any way you like, so it’s not only theoretical knowledge, then you do all that is needed. Quite often people need ~300-500 hours to start using content comfortably, and ~3000 hours to pass N1. This varies a bit, depending on your native language and if you already have learned other foreign languages before, also a bit on individual ability, but you can ask more or less any person how much time it took and it’s going to be somewhere around this number, no matter which approach they used. Classes, language schools, self learning with textbooks, self learning with content and so on.
In the end you just have to make progress. Method doesn’t matter as long as you are learning and not spinning your wheels
Textbook and a beginner course if you have access to one nearby you. Structured teaching material helps a lot in the beginning and the language is hard enough as it is without trying to guess your way to learning your first foreign language.