Has anyone experienced being a haken and then the company decided to hire you as seishain? What is the process usually and how much salary increase did you get? Did you negotiate your salary?
I am currently a hakenshain, and I’m being dispatched to its parent company (so the dispatch company being its subsidiary). They are basically almost like the same company and even our email address, policy, holidays, are all almost the same, up to the hiring process. They hired me at first with a promise of being hired directly after 2 years if my japanese level is seen as sufficient which I have improved quite a lot and now being able to work fully in Japanese with almost no issues.
For the hiring, at first they told me that I wouldn’t need to go through hiring process and all that interviews, so I was expecting a smooth transition. 2 year mark is coming and they suddenly said that I had to basically go through same process as outsider who apply from the start, so I will have to attend interviews and write essay as entrance exam. They haven’t told me about salary and benefit but I want to know how much increase I should be expecting.
There is even a possibility that they will decide that I will be keiyakushain instead. It starts to feel like a whole hassle and sacrifices since I will lose my accumulated paid-leaves, bonuses (won’t be eligible since I would be considered as new employee) and god knows what else. The whole thing feels weird and too much procedural hassles, especially knowing that I will keep doing the same job anyway…
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Always check the all the conditions of the contract. It’s not necessarily a good deal to change.
Also, if they are have been treating you in the same way as an employee during your time as a haken then they could be avoiding legal issues by employing you. e.g. you could claim that you had all the responsibilities and rules of an employee but were not paid an employees salary.
You can only negotiate a salary if you are willing to quit if you don’t get it and that implies having a competitive offer in hand or be willing to stand your ground and quit.
Always double check your contract, **especially** if the person in charge of hiring is making you promises, etc.
But if you want someone else to take a look at it, reach out to the General Union (ゼネラルユニオン) for a consultation:
https://generalunion.org/consult/
My company often hire “temp to seishiyain” after two or three years. The years worked IS the hiring process and it’s just a matter of agreeing on the conditions which are normally just a bit salary up from what they made before – the haken company tell us how much the staff was paid. So the process you are put through sounds unnecessary and bad policy from your company – clearly it makes you doubt the company’s intentions and I can just assume it affects your motivation.
It is very very rare to go from haken or keiyakushain to seishain.
I think you didnt get offered seishain because HR or finance stopped it.
Keiyakushain is the most risky in terms of stability, they are almost always let go at end of contract, even if the department needs the person, I can easily see finance vetoing it