Hi, I just accepted an offer from a company (I’ll call this A-company) and the HR asked me to send important documents such as pension book, residence card, agreement, etc.
The things is, I also received a job offer from different company (I’ll call this B-company) and I am now thinking of rejecting A-company’s offer to accept B-company’s. but I don’t know if I can still reject A-company’s offer. I haven’t signed any papers from A-company yet.
Is it rude to tell them I want to decline their offer because I found much better company? Or just continue what I have started?
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Stall A company until you hasten and complete B company’s signed contract. I made the mistake of being nice and following through with a perceived obligation and got fked over for the effort.
You’re not bound by anything until you start actually working. The company, on the other hand, cannot rescind an offer so easily.
It’s not rude to decline as long as you’re professional about it (don’t ghost them). But make sure you get a signed offer letter from company B and accept it in writing before you cut ties with company A.
Quite odd they are asking you to provide personal information for payroll when you haven’t signed anything. That’s a red flag. Are they a smaller Japanese company? Just delay them and get an employment agreement that you are happy to sign from company B. And of course you can turn down a company after signing, it’s happened to my company. It’s a hassle for those involved and obviously we’ll never hire that person but you have freedom of employment.
Edit: Did not realize that you already signed company A’s offer so what i’ve written below might not be applicable. Good luck!
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This happened to me back in my home country almost a decade ago. Accepted the offer from Company A via call but did not sign the contract yet – told them i would like to review the contract first. A day or so after, Company B gave a better offer. Went to Company B to sign the contract and after leaving their office, i called the recruiter from Company A informing them that i won’t be accepting their offer. They then told me that I’ll be blacklisted from their company for 5 years (iirc) and i just told them to go ahead. Funny thing was that 2 years into Company B, they called again asking if i was looking to switch jobs.
I guess you can do what i did but just prepared if there are consequences. Good luck!
This does happen every now and then. Let me outline the pros and cons:
Pros:
– You join the company that is your preference and make more money
– In nearly all cases, the company you are declining won’t do anything
Cons:
– Possible you’ll burn bridges and not have a chance to work for or with that company again
– Depending on how close the start date is and how key the role is, you can potentially screw up the company’s plans as they have likely rejected the backups once you signed and need to restart the search (most will probably comment that this isn’t your concern, but something to consider)
– While very unlikely, I saw one company move forward to take legal action against a candidate who backed out after accepting. This was a very large global company in Japan. I don’t know what the outcome was, but I’ve only seen this happen once in nearly 20 years.
– If you are using a recruiter, one will be extremely happy and one extremely pissed. Hopefully it’s not the same recruiter for both roles.
With all that said, if you think the second offer is much better than the first, I would take it and carefully back out of the first, trying not to burn bridges.
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Edit:
I didn’t see that line that you haven’t signed anything with company A yet. Not sure if that was changed after the post. If that’s the case, you have no obligations to them until something is signed.
if you have signed up 承諾書 then it is hard to regret the previous agreement otherwise
you are free to go to each of them
> Is it rude to tell them I want to decline their offer because I found much better company?
Why give them so much information? It’s not going to help.
I’d take the new offer and reneg on company A, but just know that your bridges will likely be burned at company A.
not a problem. they seem very lax with rejection
Agency side recruiter here with 12 years’ experience recruiting in Japan.
First.
Accept the job that you are the most interested in.
Second.
If that job is with company A let them know you have another offer and let them know how much that offer is.
Third.
If company A produces a counter offer in comparison with your other one, and you are more interested in company A, accept it.
AND if you’re more interested in company A and they can’t match or exceed your other offer still accept it.
If you are more interested in company B even if the offer is lower, take it. As a long term working environment is more important than a higher salary job with no work life balance.
Lastly if you are more interested in company B and the offer is higher you can send an email to company A stating that you have signed another offer and that you won’t be joining them.
There are no legal ramifications to this and you are protected by the Japanese labor board regardless.
Look at it this way. There is a 2nd choice person on their list most likely. You wouldn’t be taking yourself away from A-Company, you’d be giving someone else an opportunity they thought they had lost.
Framing!
Rude? Maybe. Do you own them a goddamn thing? Fuck no.
Rude? Maybe. Do you own them a goddamn thing? Fuck no. As others said, stall, get the offer from the other company signed, then cancel.
If you haven’t signed anything, you’re fine.
Company A will not hold it against you if you turn them down. If the tables were turned they’d pull their offer and give to another person if they had to.