I saw a video surface recently of a foreigner from Australia being completely obnoxious in a women only train cart and started thinking about the women only train cart in Shibuya. I often take the DT line to Shibuya and back home. On that train the woman only cart sticker seems pointless since both men and women get on that cart. Nobody tries to stop the guys and I see a bunch of guys just chilling in line to get into that cart most mornings and evenings. Why does that happen? Is Shibuya just so busy that nobody cares? I’ve only seen this happen in Shibuya so I have no other guess for why. For these guys that ride that train are they getting silently judged? Does nobody care? What do you guys think?
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I think it’s only until 9:30 or something
I don’t often go to Tokyo so I might be wrong but aren’t women only carts limited on rush hour?
Maybe it depends on the line but I always thought if it is in the middle of the day, there are no limitations anymore
It’s only during certain hours of the day (first train to 9:30am). On that line specifically it is only the number 10 car as well even if the sticker is on other cars. In that car during that time it’s probably enforced. The information is [here](https://www.tokyu.co.jp/railway/service/guide/woman/)
I ride my train during morning rush hour – However as it’s going out of Tokyo the train isn’t crowded.
I often have to walk through the women only carriage to catch the connecting train in time and there is always a few men inside there.
I’m always surprised to see men in there and that no one seems bothered… the train isn’t crowded and people are sitting so wonder if that’s why though
>I saw a video surface recently of a foreigner from Australia being completely obnoxious
Be really careful with stuff like this. The outrage vlogging industry has recently turned its burning lidless eye on Japan and we’re experiencing a surge of videos being manufactured for virality, and one of the key components of virality is anger. And there is nothing that triggers some people into unthinking rage faster than the sight of a foreign person and a story that they are violating Japanese norms. It draws weebs who don’t actually know a thing about Japan like rotting meat draws flies. Always question if what you’re seeing in these kinds of videos is what is actually happening, or if it is staged or misleadingly shot, edited, or captioned to hijack your limbic system for internet points.
The designated women-only cars are only applicable before 9:20am,
9:30am onwards all genders can ride that designated car.
Women-only policies vary from company to company: some are in effect during rush hour, others throughout the day, while some limit women-only cars to rapid service trains, as they tend to be more crowded and have relatively longer distances between stops. But in general, the policy is effective only on weekdays, excluding holidays.
Someone asked this literally same exact question yesterday and I explained it yesterday.
The car for women is the 10th car. Even though the 1st car has a sticker, if you read it, it is only for when the train is operating on a certain line.
On the Den-en-Toshi Line, the women’s only car is only for INBOUND trains from First train to 9:30 (including the portion run on the Hanzomon Line)
My friend sometimes use those cars in the morning . She said she saw men there few times. Japanese men…
He isn’t a real Aussie
Not sure about that line, but the announcement has some exceptions for people who can ride the women cars for other reasons.
For all you know that person has a heart condition or some other excuse for being there. No one is going to try and enforce this. Not to mention the whole gender stuff where you do not know.
Some guys may also ride the train by mistake. I guess some people silently judge them.
I don’t think I’ve ever caught the train when the women-only carriage was actually for women only. Depending on the line, it’s only restricted for a short time in rush hour.
I do however avoid it if possible just out of politeness. (I’m male)
I know it’s only till 930 or something like that. I still feel weird going on at other times.
Women only carriages are only for a certain time, 7am – 9am usually. I use it too.
Many people are mentioning rush times but some lines, like Sobu are women’s only until a specific station as well as during rush hour.
I think shinjuju to ochanomizu is a free for all during rush hour but anything west of shinjuju or east of ochanomizu during rush hour is women only.
Those streamers are scum and keep getting recommended to me no matter how much i report them. So tired of them
I see a lot of posts below saying that this is only during rush hour.
However I very highly doubt that the Australian tourist knows that and still got on the train claiming sexism or whatever he said.
When I first came to Japan 17 years ago it took me a solid year to learn that the women only cars were during rush hour only, and didn’t use them until I learned.
Therefore the dude is making outrage videos for likes and clicks etc.
This is the world we live in now.
> I often take the DT line to Shibuya and back home. On that train the woman only cart sticker seems pointless since both men and women get on that cart.
You may want to run this through Google translate: https://www.tokyu.co.jp/railway/service/guide/woman/
I accidentally got on a women’s only train in Manila, I was with my girlfriend though so no one seemed to care much lol
That video pissed me off. The women in the car were clearly shocked/uncomfortable. These dumbasses come to Japan for a week, do their damage to foreigners’ reputation, and then leave, all for the sake of hopping on the “I WeNt To JaPaN tO mAkE cOoL tIkToKs” bandwagon
Women-only train cars often have limited times, during peak rush.
There is also no legal requirement for men to stay off those cars. It’s a request that, because it’s Japan, almost everyone follows.
Even during times when the car is ostensibly “women only”, like many other rules, it can be ignored if it would be inconvenient for you personally. It’s the same with “no smoking”, “no littering”, red traffic lights, etc. Welcome to Japan.
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I actually asked about this just yesterday lol someone pointed out that on the Tokyu line website, it states that some trains don’t operate with a women’s only car even though they do have the sticker
The women only car is not legally enforceable and is just a guideline that “most” people follow. It’s the same as how masking was never a law in Japan, but most people followed anyway.
At certain times it is okay since there is a schedule.
But when it is not okay. you wont be stop either way . you just get the JAPANESE STARE OF DISAPPOINTMENT
Every time someone brings up the women only carts conveniently (or unknowingly) exclude the part that it’s only rush hours 7:00-9:30
The women only trains are usually only for trains departing before 9am. So if guys are getting on them in the evening that’s fine. It typically even says what times on the women only sticker. I don’t believe it even goes fully to 9am a lot of the time actually, so depending on the time it could be fine in the morning as well.
Plus, as far as I’m aware there’s no legal obligation not to use them, it’s basically just a request. So men that get on them at the wrong times aren’t doing anything illegal, they’re just being jerks.
I ride the train during morning rush when the women-only rules are in effect. I’m a woman BTW. I get on at the station of origin, and the women-only car is the closest to the ticket gates.
I don’t personally feel the need to be in the women-only car, but sometimes I use it because
A. I’m running late, and ran in at the last minute
B. There are seats available and/or
C. It smells better and is less crowded
However, there are always guys in there, and numbers seem to be growing. The other morning I was prompted to complain on the complaints thread because the number of men in there reached a new high.
I don’t think all the guys could be handicapped; anyway if you have an invisible condition that makes it hard to stand, you’re meant to carry one of those red badges. There’s no enforcement, and no one says anything, even though the driver’s compartment overlooks the car.
I’m tempted to gaijin smash a little, point out one of the stickers, and ask one of the guys “excuse me, I can’t read Japanese well, do you know what this says?” Instead, I’ve started avoiding the women-only car because it bothers me. I’d rather be in another car then be silently irritated in that one.
“ I often take the DT line”
They have separate trains now?
Well it depends on the line and time of day. When I’m in Tokyo, I avoid rush hour as much as possible.
I went into one by mistakes, once, because doors were closing and I was late. Realized my mistake from the nice fragrance of the car. Changed car at next stop, no one batted an eye.
I know exactly the video you’re talking about. Fuck that guy
Tokyu DT line user here. The last car is ladies only, but only until 9:30am on weekdays, after that it’s free to everyone. They still have visible pink sticker saying women only on their windows. That foreign dude probably filmed that for the troll
It’s only during the rush hour in the morning, however, there are lines where women only train carts are available throughout the day as well (have used one in Osaka before).
It’s not that nobody cares. It’s just that nobody’s going to say anything, it’s common. While sometimes Japanese people will speak up, it’s more of an exception.
It’s always Weterners. To those living abroad. It’s on you. You see any of these westerns speaking loudly or being rude. Stand up to it. You know your culture and where we come from. They know they shouldn’t be acting a fool but don’t care. I once had to tell a group of 20 somethings to shut up on the train. I asked nicely once, but they didn’t get it until I said it again and few other Japanese people on the train backed me.
They think just cause they are on vacation its there place. It’s everyones. Needs to be respected. Nothing but value can be learned out of it.