My strange and unexpected encounter with Kenshōkai

I am a gay man in his late 20s who recently moved to Japan. I’ve been using some of the dating apps, and via Bumble, I connected with a Japanese young man (30 years old) from Saitama prefecture and chatted with him in Japanese. Our chat conversation wasn’t too extensive, but he was polite and courteous and asked if I wanted to meet at Ikebukuro station on an evening during the long weekend. The timing worked for me, and I hadn’t yet been on a date with a Japanese man, and he looked attractive enough to me from his photos, so I was happy to dip my toes in the dating scene and see how things would turn out. I was a little nervous since although I’ve passed the JLPT N2, I’m a little out of practice with the language, so wondered if we’d face any language barriers, although I’m generally able to navigate with my level of language proficiency. I fully expected this to be either a date or just a friendly encounter. If nothing worked out, hey, at least I’d be able to get some conversation practice! I presumed that Ikebukuro must be a convenient location to meet since it is connected to trains from Saitama.

I eventually found him at Ikebukuro station and started talking to him. Within half a minute he pointed me to his car, and asked me to sit in it. I was a little surprised since I’d presumed he’d come via train. When I sat in the back seat of the car, I discovered that there was another young man in the front passenger seat. It was all happening so fast, that I couldn’t fully process it, and was just taken aback! The two of them cracked some joke with me. Then, the guy whom I met asked me if I knew of Hotoke sama and had heard of the chant of Nam Myoho Renge Kyo. I was a little surprised, and after a moment’s hesitation I was like, “Yes, my mother chants it everyday.” He was very shocked that a visibly non-Japanese person like me knew about it, and that my mother, who lives in a different Asian country (culturally very different and distinct from Japan) chants it. I then told him that my family were members of SGI (I used the abbreviation instead of “Sōka Gakkai”). He said that he hadn’t heard of SGI, but in the course of the conversation, I think he realized that it was Soka Gakkai International, and he was like “Oh, it’s international too?”

He asked me if I’d like to go to a particular temple to practice, but I said that I didn’t want to (and was quite firm), and that instead, I’d rather just get a meal with them and chat. So he drove a few blocks, and we ended up getting a meal at Mos Burger.

The three of us eventually each bought our meals and found tables to chat at. At first, they had a general jocular conversation and involved me, and asked me general questions about myself. I did share general information about myself, though I tried to not be too specific. In retrospect, I wonder if I shared too much with them.

In the course of conversation, they tried to convince me about the merits of their religious organization (Kenshōkai) and their religious teacher, and why Soka Gakkai and Daisaku Ikeda are wrong. They were surprised and impressed with the extent of my knowledge of Nichiren Buddhist terms and doctrine. Their religious solicitation was persistent, and they kept spouting the merits/benefits of their organization and would then say 「じゃ、やろうか?」and「行こうか?」(to their temple) but I stalled or declined and instead kept the conversation going by asking them various questions, sharing my own opinions and thoughts about Buddhism, and mildly defending Sōka Gakkai and Daisaku Ikeda from their accusations. They kept telling me that the Gohonzon (object of worship) of Soka Gakkai was wrong/fake, and that Daisaku Ikeda had deviated from the correct path of Nichiren Buddhism, and was only interested in constructing buildings rather than spreading the correct teaching of Nichiren Daishonin and that he was self-satisfied to have spread Nichiren Buddhism to 8 million Japanese. I’m not sure if my knowledge of Buddhism served as a shield against their proselytizing efforts, or whether it persuaded them to proselytize to me even further.

I think they eventually realized that their efforts were futile. When I stated that I wouldn’t leave the SGI and that my family and I deeply respected Daisaku Ikeda, the guy said 「かわいそう」- that although I knew so much about Buddhism/Nichiren Buddhism, I was still not acquiescing to their viewpoint. They gave me their religious pamphlet (the one with Mount Fuji on it, which are sometimes randomly distributed at train stations or public places).

I learned that the aim of Kenshōkai as a religious movement/cult is to convert all Japanese people to their organization, and eventually construct a kokuritsu kaidan (国立戒壇)so that Japan will be saved. They kept pointing to earthquakes and pandemics as a sign of the world’s problems, and then shared with me a picture of the apartment of a believer in Tohoku who was miraculously saved during the 2011 earthquake/tsunami.

I wonder if as a foreigner, I was an easy target.

I eventually parted ways with them on polite terms. In retrospect, I wonder if I was too polite through the entire conversation!

I have an active imagination, and although there were moments in the beginning when I wondered if I would be kidnapped or was unsafe, I didn’t feel too unsafe, since we were near Ikebukuro station, which is generally crowded (and especially on that evening over the long weekend!).

I’ve since shared the experience with various friends, including those with extensive academic knowledge about Japan or with more lived experience here than me, and they said that the entire encounter was fraudulent! That they hid their motives, and that it was very problematic.

As I think back to the encounter, I don’t even know if the guy I met was gay 😅 There was nothing to suggest any interest in friendship or romance, and the entire encounter was basically a religious solicitation.

Funnily enough, this was my second religious solicitation over the long weekend 😅 On a different day of the weekend, a woman gave me and another foreigner friend English language brochures of a group called Sukyo Mahikari, haha.

I don’t even know what the lesson of this encounter was! I’d still be happy to meet up with people whom I match with on dating apps or even go on a blind date, especially if I meet them at a public place.

TL;DR: What I expected to be a date or friendly encounter, as I dipped my toes into gay dating/expanding my circle of friends as a relative newcomer to Japan turned out to be an attempt to convert me to a “new religious movement”/cult called “Kenshokai.” No particular “red flag” signs to be wary of, prior to meeting.

15 comments
  1. It’s been going on a while, I went on a date with a fella off Grindr in 2016 that was just a recruitment thing. At least I got dinner first, but otherwise same sort of deal, retreat to his car after, pulls out a folder of material and starts his pitch. In my case it was just the one guy.

    None of my straight friends came across it, and we were all pretty active on dating apps, so not sure if they’re specifically targeting foreigners, the alphabet mafia, or both?

    Edit: Mine was in rural Niigata, and with Soka Gakkai, and funnily enough, he used that exact same picture of the apartment of a believer in Tohoku.

  2. Using young men and women to invite potential recruits through a fake date is a common recruitment strategy here. Similarly dares might try to recruit you to their MLM (basically pyramid schemes). It shouldn’t be too common though but the sub sees it happen regularly. Japan has a lot of cults actually, so the name of this particular one doesn’t ring a bell.

    It’s kinda of funny you managed to counter them by what many see as a just a different cult (sorry but the little I know about Soka Gakkai makes it look like a right wing ultra conservative cult but I’m no expert).

    I hope you got to practice your Japanese at least. Hopefully you’ll get better encounters in the future.

  3. If you use Saikyo Line between Saitama and Tokyo, be ready for the Latter Day Saint (LDS/Mormons) folks. You’re a magnet!

  4. Kenshokai are nasty fucks. I know someone who was held hostage in a car for 3 hours. She had to “convert.” She finally ran away. Gakkai are also fun. Where is Ikeda Daisaku? Oh, we haven’t seen him in 10 years.

  5. Good call with using SGI against them, but next time, hit em with an even crazier branch of nutjob cult lunacy like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinnyo-en

    I’ve been taken to their headquarters before, it was a terrifying experience. That being said, if it wasn’t good crazy *** I wouldn’t have gone 🙂

  6. There are rules like how many people you have to admit in a month to the kensho kai.
    So I think they get desperate. There are a wide variety of recruitment methods, but matching apps are typical.

    Not long ago, I was looking at books at a bookstore and someone said, “We seem to have similar taste in books, so why don’t we become friends?” When we went to a restaurant, we started talking about Kenshokai.

    They target people who seem mentally weak or in unfortunate circumstances. They probably thought that I, who was wearing glasses and choosing novels (such people are usually lonely, I guess), was a good dupe.

    It was a good decision on your part to bump the cult of Soka Gakkai against the cult of Kenshokai. I think you made a good move except for the fact that you got in a stranger’s car.

  7. Kenshokai can go fuck themselves in hell. I have made the mistake of opening my door for them once and it was not a pleasant experience.
    The 2 women who came were nice at first but they tried to bring me to their car (technically kidnapping me) to bring me to their temple and “save” me. I told them no, I’m not going, tried to close the door, but they placed their body against the door effectively preventing me from closing it and just continued talking. I was ready to grab my kitchen knife to scare them but fortunately for me, a postman came making them move out of the way. I took the opportunity to close the door immediately.

  8. They ask you too many personal questions so they can sign you up to their cult without permission. If you took a picture with them they use that too on the form…

  9. I had a very similar experience a couple of weeks ago from a person who matches your description exactly. He was around 30 from Saitama. He drove three hours to meet me while barely talking beforehand. When we finally met at a station I was very persistent about not wanting to get into the car with him and his random friend (Whom he didn’t tell me about previously).

    He also asked for all of my personal information: full name, birthday, where I work, address, phone number. I gave him fake information and pretended to get a text from a friend which needed a return call. I lied that she was in the hospital and she needed help and immediately ran.

    I wasn’t aware that he was apart of a religious organization, so I thought that he was trying to steal my identity or do worse, so I reported the encounter to the Koban the next day. In the moment it was really scary, but now that I know he was just a cult member, I’m not too worried that he’ll try and follow up with me. Be safe out there everyone!

    Edit: clarification

  10. You were definitely too polite. I would have bailed the moment I realized it was a religious thing.

  11. > Within half a minute he pointed me to his car, and asked me to sit in it.

    This wasn’t a *oh shit, run* moment for you?

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