I only have a HS degree but I want to get a software engineering job, maybe places like DeNa or Mercari by going to a boot camp. Is it impossible without a bachelors?
Getting a job also depends on how good you are. If you are tech savvy now it depends on your transition into coding & if you will start to create cool projects on your own afterwards. Nothing is impossible but there’s too little information to say what you have planned makes it possible.
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If you’re a foreigner you’ll have a hard time getting a work visa without 4 year university degree.
to be hireable in places without a degree you would have to have the skills and knowledge that would not be acquired at a boot camp in a couple weeks.
I think places like Mercari tend to really have a deep talent pool so you’d probably need to be pretty exceptional to get in. There are definitely other IT companies more open.
I think that in any case it’s a bit of an uphill battle, since without work experience or a uni diploma you’re missing some social proof about your skill level. That being said! I think that learning about programming is a satisfying experience.
Code Chrysalis (from what I’ve heard/ppl I’ve talked to) has interesting/good people, so it wouldn’t be months wasted. But it might be tough for them to guarantee you get hired afterwards, since most people in the course are coming from several years of work experience in other domains.
The reason bootcamps work for hiring is not because they get you to be a master programmer, it’s more that they make you a competent programmer, and people who are doing it tend to have work experience making them adults who know how to work on a team (compared to junior devs out of university who tend to be hard to work with on account of low EQ and the like).
We have hired a lot from Code C. Good people and they support their students. Most are really green entry level devs though. Many businesses are looking for senior level now.
First im going to answer your question unlike the other people.
Yes it’s possible here in Japan, even without a degree. However you’ll need to have a Visa that will allow work, like spousal. You wont be able to get a working visa without a degree unfortunately, at least not with a lot of experience. Secondly yes it’s possible to get a job in software development without a degree, very possible. However you’ll need to learn a lot and build some great projects to make up for it. A bootcamp will help but you will need to do a lot more on your own too.
Now for my opinion: Someone said you were only 19. Damn, i wish i was only 19 still. You might feel differently but you have so much fucking time. I would get a degree. One of my biggest regrets in life is not completing my degree. I made something of myself still but it would have been a lot easier for me if i had a degree. I just didn’t have the luxury of time to re-try it. At 19 you definitely do. A few years is nothing. If you can get a degree by 28 you are still fine.
So my advice would to see if you can study CS.
Japanese companies love smart kids. They hire straight out of university and almost never break away from this tradition unless someone is credentialed and really good at what they do. That’s the problem, however. They require degrees.
Foreign companies are a bit more lenient if you have a visa and experience. That’s the problem for you as well, you are a kid with no experience. You might find work on Fiverr or some other contract site, but the pay sucks and customers are often cutthroat and will give you a bad review if you don’t go above and beyond and work for free.
You really should go to school. If you can’t, learn to code and get on those contract platforms or advertise in your local area for programming services. Get used to being told “no thanks”.
Starting out is hard and takes years to build a reputation. Even with 3 years of experience, nobody will believe you are any good if you don’t have a degree. It’s on you to create your online profile and build out a portfolio and product catalogue. Creating an app that sells helps, as does running a popular open source community. However, nobody reputable will join your community unless they believe they will benefit by joining you.
At 19, you’re just not capable of anything other than learning or being used for your labor unless you are rich. If you are rich, I have an investment opportunity just for you 😛
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Getting a job also depends on how good you are. If you are tech savvy now it depends on your transition into coding & if you will start to create cool projects on your own afterwards. Nothing is impossible but there’s too little information to say what you have planned makes it possible.
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If you’re a foreigner you’ll have a hard time getting a work visa without 4 year university degree.
to be hireable in places without a degree you would have to have the skills and knowledge that would not be acquired at a boot camp in a couple weeks.
I think places like Mercari tend to really have a deep talent pool so you’d probably need to be pretty exceptional to get in. There are definitely other IT companies more open.
I think that in any case it’s a bit of an uphill battle, since without work experience or a uni diploma you’re missing some social proof about your skill level. That being said! I think that learning about programming is a satisfying experience.
Code Chrysalis (from what I’ve heard/ppl I’ve talked to) has interesting/good people, so it wouldn’t be months wasted. But it might be tough for them to guarantee you get hired afterwards, since most people in the course are coming from several years of work experience in other domains.
The reason bootcamps work for hiring is not because they get you to be a master programmer, it’s more that they make you a competent programmer, and people who are doing it tend to have work experience making them adults who know how to work on a team (compared to junior devs out of university who tend to be hard to work with on account of low EQ and the like).
We have hired a lot from Code C. Good people and they support their students. Most are really green entry level devs though. Many businesses are looking for senior level now.
First im going to answer your question unlike the other people.
Yes it’s possible here in Japan, even without a degree. However you’ll need to have a Visa that will allow work, like spousal. You wont be able to get a working visa without a degree unfortunately, at least not with a lot of experience.
Secondly yes it’s possible to get a job in software development without a degree, very possible. However you’ll need to learn a lot and build some great projects to make up for it. A bootcamp will help but you will need to do a lot more on your own too.
Now for my opinion:
Someone said you were only 19. Damn, i wish i was only 19 still. You might feel differently but you have so much fucking time. I would get a degree. One of my biggest regrets in life is not completing my degree. I made something of myself still but it would have been a lot easier for me if i had a degree. I just didn’t have the luxury of time to re-try it. At 19 you definitely do. A few years is nothing. If you can get a degree by 28 you are still fine.
So my advice would to see if you can study CS.
Japanese companies love smart kids. They hire straight out of university and almost never break away from this tradition unless someone is credentialed and really good at what they do. That’s the problem, however. They require degrees.
Foreign companies are a bit more lenient if you have a visa and experience. That’s the problem for you as well, you are a kid with no experience. You might find work on Fiverr or some other contract site, but the pay sucks and customers are often cutthroat and will give you a bad review if you don’t go above and beyond and work for free.
You really should go to school. If you can’t, learn to code and get on those contract platforms or advertise in your local area for programming services. Get used to being told “no thanks”.
Starting out is hard and takes years to build a reputation. Even with 3 years of experience, nobody will believe you are any good if you don’t have a degree. It’s on you to create your online profile and build out a portfolio and product catalogue. Creating an app that sells helps, as does running a popular open source community. However, nobody reputable will join your community unless they believe they will benefit by joining you.
At 19, you’re just not capable of anything other than learning or being used for your labor unless you are rich. If you are rich, I have an investment opportunity just for you 😛