Need advice for spots to find locals to chat with.

Hi, Kyoto redditors.
I'm planning a trip to Osaka and Kyoto in April. And I'm looking for advice about where to find English speaking locals to chat or make friend with, as we thought it would be a fun way to get to know what normal Japanese life would be like.
I'm thinking about local izakayas, and want more backup plans.
Any suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.