Frequency list for most common 2k words (in hiragana/katakana not kanji)

Just wondering if there’s a frequency list out there that for words in hiragana/katakana only. This should be approx 80% of the language by frequency (obviously could vary depending on sources etc.)

And yes I know Kanji is better, but I know about 3k chinese characters already so firstly if I don’t know the meaning of a word I can have a fairly good guess. Secondly, I have a habit of reading the Kanji *in* chinese, so I need to ‘think’ in hiragana first so I can ‘imprint’ the pronunciation onto the kanji.
And lastly, the hiragana/katakana would allow me to make some useful mnemonics (this already worked a treat in chinese, so wanting to bring it over to Japanese).

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

3 comments
  1. Honestly, the frequency list kinda sucks for a lot of things cause it’s based on newspapers, and it’s hardly 80% due to there being many niche words that may or may not apply to you. You would be much better off studying words pertaining to a goal. Either a textbook vocab, JLPT, or something like that. They’re much more useful to get reading than 2k.

  2. The only way to look at Japanese and hear it is lots of listening practice. I don’t know Chinese but I managed to learn to read for meaning well enough to ignore the readings. Weird experience, it eventually worked out okay.

    Reading kana doesn’t help very much because we only have a foreign guess at what Japanese sounds like. This doesn’t match reality very well: Japanese is fast and melodic and has complicated gut-sense rules about vowel modification and devoicing.

    2k is a good start, but the Japanese vocabulary curve is unusually flat. That many words would get you to 80% coverage in many languages but not here.

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